Wednesday 25 January 2012

January 25th, 2012

silverstein (member) - this person scammed a rare redbrick wallpaper from one of my friends by promising to send a rare if they sent the wallpaper as a free gift. Did not send the promised rare in return and just ran away. She now has my friend's rare wallpaper up for trade.

phantoms7 - this non-member was saying "Trade me a worn and I will send non-member bat wings." When I confronted them they claimed that they were just repeating something they heard someone else saying, but ran away when I let it be known that I would be watching them. Also did not have non-member bat wings on trade to prove they actually had that rare in the first place.

blueskybeforedawn (member) - this person scammed someone out of their viking helmet. I did not see exactly how though - only this person gloating that they would not give it back and running away.

Update for this post (January 26th, 2012):

I originally had an entry listing a jammer named kikiismyheart (member) as a scammer, who scammed my friend wom9 (member). After reviewing the terstimonials of commentors on this entry, on other blogs, and some reliable people while playing Animal Jam, I have removed kikiismyheart from the scammers list (equally however, I will NOT be adding wom9 to the scammer's list. See below).

From what I can gather, kiki accepted a trade from wom even though she could not see what was being traded to her for her rare. That kind of puts her at fault because it is (or should be) common sense to decline any trade you cannot see. Wom9 would not trade back, even after it was explained to her that kiki could not see the trade. While I do not agree with the fact that wom refused to trade back, she is not guilty of scamming. A trade is a trade.

My original post on kikiismyheart was inaccurate and for that I apologize. I do sometimes get it wrong. Kikiismyheart has been greenlisted (meaning, she is not a scammer).

(No more comments will be accepted on either Kikiismyheart or wom9. If you guys wish to continue to call each other scammers, you will have to do it somewhere else.)

47 comments:

  1. BTW, wom9, your SUPER COOL for making a scammer watch that is retarded, and kiki didnt scam you

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  2. Your first comment was deleted because I will not allow you to harass people on my blog. Please leave your username next time rather than hiding behind your animal name and/or anonymity.

    No where in this post does it say that kiki scammed wom, but that kiki is accusing wom of scamming so she can get the things, that wom traded fairly for, back for free - which is a scammer TACTIC. Reading comprehension fail.

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    1. you did say kiki scammed wom you said that she tried to scam people by doing good trades and then demanding the person to trade it back!

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  3. uhm tell me here are leg pads for a green and red jester hat fair? well uh of course not and uhm wom scammed me because wom is a scammer almost in every blog talks about wom being a scammer and im not a scammer -_-

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    1. I suppose the issue is debatable, but not trading back after accepting a trade is not scamming. Do not accept trades if you think you will regret it later.

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    2. anoymous has a point i have to say. like i said half of jamaa agreed with me wom is a scammer. and how asking to trade back be scamming. kiki probably didn't realize what the trade was saying and thought wom was trading her jester hat for the leg pads. and she didn't harass wom she asked her to trade back and wom left saying she was gonna say she was a scammer! kiki was very sad she had just lost her jester hat so she invited wom to her den and she would come back and forth teasing us!

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    3. thanks to your friend wom9 kikiismyheart quit and doesn't wanna go on aj cuz she doesn't have her fun jester hat anymore D:

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  4. Oh and also zoeyfish468 is poor because she got scammed for eevrything she has literally dont believe me whatever idc -_- and uhm begging for gifts is not a scam -_-

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    1. Begging is not ALWAYS scamming I agree, but there are many people who beg for rare items as free gifts rather than taking the time and patience to earn them through fair trading.

      A lot of the times, these beggers are just to lazy to play games for gems and try to guilt trip people into sending them gifts for recycling. It may not be necessarily defined as scamming, but it is unfair to others who earn their gems and rares the hard (and fair) way.

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  5. wom9 you should be on this blog cuz you are the scammer here
    i went to jamaa to say you scammed my friend and people said WOM9 SCAMMED ME TOO

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    1. I have to admit that I am conflicted. I don't want to believe my friend scammed, but I don't like people being bullied either. I am confused as to what to believe right now.

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    2. even though this is a late comment, i agree with you. it is very challenging when everyone is saying one of your good friends is scamming.

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  6. your friend scammed kiki you got the wrong story

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  7. I didnt mean to accept it js -_- and also wom is a scammer and she said the trade was a "glitch" so uhm tell me now if it was a "glitch" then why didn't she give it back? -.-

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  8. I meant hacked and im not a scammer i gurantee u 100 percent i am not a scammer she scammed me she even scammed most of my friends and im not a bully and i wasnt harassing her -_- u dont know anything about me so why post me on this silly blog i ask?

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  9. wom9 is a huge scammer deal with it im not a scam and i never will be im not like that ask wolfgurl696 kewlperson wolflova477 etc. because they all let me borrow there rares -_-

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  10. wom9 is the scammer here he scammed kiki okay? get ur facts right!!

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  11. Through fair trading? she has nothing anymore because of someone that hacked her and she's doing her best to get her stuff back she had so many rares that she worked so hard for and your telling me that she's lazy? ya right she spent about 2 years to get all the stuff she had but then she got hacked and everything got tooken away from her....

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    1. People get hacked when they do something nonsensical like share their passwords, make passwords that are easy to guess, or try to use certain programs on the internet that claim the person will get gems or rare items if they download it and submit their username and passwords into the program.

      One of those reasons is why your friend was hacked. No one is hacked randomly. People need to be careful with their passwords and not tell them to others or sumbit them into dodgy programs on the internet that promise to give free rares. Getting hacked is terrible, but ultimately preventable.

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  12. I am not going to change my post yet, but you guys have given me lots to think about. I will speak with wom again and try to get the story straight. I am upset that my friend possibly scammed someone, but I also do not like people ganging up on others to convince me something (possibly) false about them - it has happened before. I know how rumors and group mentality can be destructive.

    When I understand more about this situation updates will be forthcoming.

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    1. Let's say Wom9 is a scammer (which wom is) why would you think she is telling you the right story. She even said she was gonna put on her blog that Kikiismyheart is a scammer just because kiki was trying to get her jester hat back and Wom9 even said it was a glitch! Wom9 is tricking you she told kiki that the trade was just a glitch and she still had her jester hat! She harassed kiki and threatened her. Because of wom9's lies and you posting what you think is the right story kiki is afraid to show her face. She thinks she is gonna get banned because she is being called a scammer even though wom is. She tricked kiki into the trade and said it was just a glitch. If it was a glitch wom9 then why didn;'t you trade it back. I have half of Jamaa that agrees wom9 is a scammer. I shouldn't even be posting this I am just gonna get bullied too. I know you believe us and not wom9 the scammer. Wom9 isn't the type of friend to trust. Try going into Jamaa and saying I got scammed by Wom9 you will see people burst out they did too.

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    2. First of all, going to Jamaa and asking if a certain username is a scammer is not a sign of accuracy, because of the rumors and groupthink mentality that I mentioned in my previous comment, people will often agree or claim that person scammed them when it in fact did not happen. (See: rumors and groupthink mentality). This happens all the time to people who have awesome rare items because people are jealous of their rares. I have unfortunately falsely reported people and listed them on this blog because of these malicious rumors.

      Secondly, if kikiismyheart is not a scammer then she has nothing to fear and no reason to quit. This blog is not very popular and (except for today) gets next to no traffic. What I post here has little effect on the repuations of people who play Animal Jam.

      I admit that I am succeptible to immediately believing what my buddies tell me rather than the words of people I do not know on Animal Jam - and I am loathe to admit that I may be friends with a possible scammer. But I also like to give people the benefit of the doubt and try to learn both sides of the story before I cast to much judgement on either party. If wom9 has scammed, I will try to find out why and hopefully pursaude her to do the right thing and trade back, though I admit I have not seen the interactions between the indiviuals involved and do not know who is telling the more truthful version of events.

      Bombarding this blog with your opinions does not offer proof, only anecdotal evidence unfortunatly and I cannot accurately post about who did what to whom until I have a clearer picture of what actually happened, hence my desire to speak more with wom9.

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  13. Also if u want proof that wom9 is a scammer look up wom9's blog scam u'll find a lot of people saying wom9 has scammed me or my friends or anything like that trust me i have never bullied anyone on animaljam and u know u trust us not wom9 because i can tell from whut u post...

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    1. I follow wom9's blog on my blogroll and I have seen neither a post about scamming or any comments from other users claiming that she has scammed, sorry. Though it is possible that she wither removed the post or has a completely different blog that I do not know about.

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  14. Listen! I know kiki isnt a scammer! u have all these evidence! Hello its obvious wom9 is lieing!!! he is trying to get everyone to think that my friend kiki did it! but she didnt! So its not nice how you post something thats a TOTAL lie! And wom has scammed alot of my other friends and ALOT of other jammers! U GOT THE STORY WRONG!

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  15. Not on her blog -_- on other peoples blog -_-

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    1. Yeah I get that now. Reading comprehension FAIL on my part LOL!

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  16. Dude i just want my jester back that is all -_- and if i was a scammer then how come i give back stuff? huh -_-

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  17. Uhm also if you dont know me and dont care about me then why'd u post me on ur blog? u know nothing about me trust me me and wom used to be good friends untill the trade that was supposively a "glitch" if wom wasn't a scammer then why did she not give bakc my jester hat when she found it in her inventory? or ask to trade back? tell me that -_-

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    1. I don't know more than half the people I list on my blog. How well I know you is irrelevant. I have posted people I know well on this blog as well, when I have seen (or heard of) them scamming.

      First of all, you should never accept a trade if you can't see what is being traded to you. That is just common sense. You accepted the trade and regretted it - that does not mean that wom scammed you. Though I have to admit, if wom really was a friend, she probably should have traded back after you explained what happened. Still, as much as it sucks, not trading back is not scamming. If you cannot see the trade, then never ever press the accept button, no matter how good you think the rare being traded will be.

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  18. WOm9 is the real scammer, i told everyone in town and they said they were scammed by her too,

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    1. I did a little research and I to have heard people say that wom9 scams. On the other hand, I heard just as many people say that wom9 no longer scams and has reformed her ways.

      I guess everyone will have their own opinions on the matter regardless of what the truth really is. Such is life. :L

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    2. Fire this is Wom. Yes, the last time i scammed was in 2010. I state my fact I reformed my horrible ways, Thanks for fighting for me. Yes, Kiki did NOT scam me nor did i scam her. We traded a trade is a traded and she still has like 3 jesters.

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  19. Plz stop harassing Kikiismyheart!Plz just stop,All this scamming stuff,But Wom9 did scam Kikiismyheart.Wom9 is tricking you FireTigerx!Plz just stop saying tht Kikiismyheart is scamming!Just stop it now!! -.-
    All she wants is to get her Jester Hat back and for this
    nonsense to stop.Plz!Oh plz!Stop the nonsense!

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    1. I am not harassing anyone, just reporting what I see and/or hear. While your pleading is heartfelt, it does nothing to clarify the situation as it is.

      And no, I am not going to stop listing scammers (or potential scammers) because I want Animal Jam to be a fun and safe environment for all people. Scammers are a blight on what should be an otherwise fun videogame.

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  20. STOP LYING ABOUT PEOPLE! YOUR JUST JEOULOUS AND TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE LOOK BAD! KIKI IS MY FRIEND AND SHE WOULD NEVER DO THAT TO A PERSON AND I WAS THERE WHEN SHE DIDN'T TRY TO SCAM U!

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    1. And this, people, is the kind of comments that usually get deleted. I allowed it through moderation so you could see what the other 50% of the comments that this post has generated look like.

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  21. Kiki is NOT a scammer! I was there when it happened. Wom traded for her jester hat, the items didn't show up, but kiki accepted and wom blamed it on a glitch. This doesn't necesarily make wom a scammer, but refusing to trade back and blaming it on a glitch is pretty much a scam. Wom is trying to trick you by telling her side only. Kiki doesn't bully either, she was just furious that she couldn't get her RIGHTFULLY EARNED RARE back. So, her group of friends that was there (including me) defended her. Take kiki off, she does not bully and she certainly DOES NOT SCAM. Kthxbai.
    ~WhiteFeather

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    1. Yeah I have updated the entry. Hopefully it is more accurate now, though I suspect that it will still not be satisfactory to the people involved in this situation. Unfortunately I can do nothing about the regret and resentment felt between those involved.

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  22. Kiki didn't scam anyone. It was actually wom9 that scammed kiki.

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    1. Nobody scammed anybody. It was stupidity on the part of both individuals involved.

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  23. Thanks so much for taking me off! :D
    ~Kikiismyheart

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  24. When I went into jamma there was somebody saying that blueskybeforedawn scammed a flag not a Viking hat..

    Jammalidayjam

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  25. What stinks is that silverstein was the one who SCAMMED my oven bake item!

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  26. And I believe wom9 ISN'T a scammer. get UR facts right, idiots.

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  27. Anon is right i talked on her blog personally with wom9 and she said she used too scam but doesnt Anymore key word USED she quit cause she was upset about people half the time when ever she gone on she got called a scammer! and even on her blog poor wom9 gets bullied about her passed years. =_= so firetigerx she almost never goes on her blog so it was a rare thing too chat with wom9 and she is a really nice person and seems too be very nice! so Blammers there is your proof that wom9 Does not scam anymore.

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